Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998
From: Flora Tristan <tristan@iww.org>
To: Stephen Taylor <steve@kiwi.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: NATURE and the dialectic

Happy May Day fellow workers.  I'll send you a song soon.

On Fri, 1 May 1998, Stephen Taylor wrote:

> Flora Tristan wrote:
> 
> 	"The dialectic for me can only exist with humans. I can't see it
> existing without humans--i.e. outside in nature."
> 
> This is deep water for me because I see humans as completely within
> nature anyway. So if the dialectic 'exists with humans' it is already
> in nature. 


I agree. Humans are part and parcel of nature. My point is that the
dialectic is an object of human creation.  I do not see how objects of
human creation can exist without humans.  Therfore, the dialectic does not
exist in nature; it exists within the minds of humans.  It is a tool, so
to speak, of logic, which we use to understand the world around us,
including nature. 

Right?